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How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

16.06.2025 00:02

How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

I wasted my whole life in the city of Shiva;

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਮੈ ਬਲਿਹਾਰੀ ਤੋਰ ॥

Why does my crush make me jealous about having a girlfriend?

Let’s look at the most used verse by McSikhs to show that Sikhs are neither Hindus nor Muslims.

How can they kill the mother, whose milk they drink like that of a wet nurse?

At the time of my death, I moved to Magahar. ||2||

Are democrats eating crow?

ਜਹਾ ਜਾਈਐ ਤਹ ਜਲ ਪਖਾਨ ॥

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹੁ ਕੀਆ ਵਖਾਨਾ ॥

I ground up sandalwood, along with several fragrant oils.

Why cant I stop thinking about counsellor between sessions?

Here ਰਾਮੈ is Rama and not just lord. Kabir died chanting the name of Rama DESPITE him not finding any result of penances done in holy cities in his previous birth. Another example to show how much Kabir valued personal devotion to Rama in his own NIRGUN style.

ਹਜ ਕਾਬੈ ਜਾਉ ਨ ਤੀਰਥ ਪੂਜਾ ॥

The views of Kabir are very much in parallel to the Advaita philosophy and it is obvious that as the disciple of Ramanandacharya he will carry forward with his chosen NIRGUN BHAKTI.

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We have searched the turaki Dharam (Turk's religion, Islam), these teachers throw many thunderbolts,

Shvetashvatara Upanishad (6.23)

Meeting with the Guru, my Spiritual Teacher, I realize God, my Lord and Master. ||5||3||

What do you do when you are struggling to fall asleep?

Bhakti movement began in South (Tamil Nadu to be precise) and slowly spread to Northern parts of India. This movement was extremely popular because of its simple fundamentals which could be understood by even commonfolk. Vaishnavism, Shaivism etc… were already connecting with commonfolk from a long time and this Bhakti movement reinforced it by making the devotee feel a personal connection with the deity.

I left Benares - I had little common sense. ||1|| Pause ||

Now tell me, Lord, what will my condition be?

Why did the massacre of al-Dawayima Palestinian residents not have the same reverberations as the Deir Yasin massacre?

ਏਕ ਦਿਵਸ ਮਨ ਭਈ ਉਮੰਗ ॥

Where spring, the lord of seasons reigneth, there the unstruck music sounds of itself,

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

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I have searched through all the Vedas and the Puraanas.

I have taken the One Formless Lord into my heart; I humbly worship Him there. ||3||

I would go there, only if the Lord were not here. ||2||

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Sikhism is a NIRGUN path descending from the Sant Sampraday of Ramanandacharya and traces its ideas to VEDANTA!

ਓਛੀ ਭਗਤਿ ਕੈਸੇ ਉਤਰਸਿ ਪਾਰੀ ॥੪॥

CONCLUSION:

What are the main issues that have historically and currently divided Republicans and Democrats?

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Actually, this part of the Ang 326 is widely used by McSikhs to show that Sikhism considers Hindu pilgrimages as useless and thus drives home the point again that the “religion” has got NOTHING to do with Hinduism.

then who is there to know what happens without?

Why is Donald Trump criticized by so many people?

Sadhna (a Muslim butcher) and

I serve the One Lord, and not any other. ||2||

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ

Sant Kabir was staunchly against cow slaughter.

ਏਕ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਲੇ ਰਿਦੈ ਨਮਸਕਾਰਉ ॥੩॥

You have cut through all my confusion and doubt.

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Sriraag / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 92

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There is my Lord self-revealed, and the scent of sandal and flowers dwells in those deeps.

ਬਹੁਤੁ ਬਰਸ ਤਪੁ ਕੀਆ ਕਾਸੀ ॥

To him who is high-minded, these teachings will be illuminating.

Sain (a barber)

The Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, is heaven. ||4||10||

ਕਤ ਜਾਈਐ ਰੇ ਘਰ ਲਾਗੋ ਰੰਗੁ ॥

For him Dharma was beyond everything physical including the desire for heaven because was fully into the NIRGUN . The last verse shows that according to him the company of the enlightened Sadhus is heaven which is again a typical teaching of Sanatana Dharma.

I do not perform Hindu worship services, nor do I offer the Muslim prayers.

Ramarchan Paddati gives more info about his teachings.

My consciousness does not go out wandering. My mind has become crippled. ||1|| Pause ||

The young and the old drink milk pudding, but these fools eat the cow's body.

ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥

There is a reason why I mention ROOTED and thus NOT implying that it belongs to one of the numerous sects in Sanatana Dharma like Shaivism, Vaishnavism, Shaktism, Smartism etc…

ਏਕੋ ਸੇਵੀ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਦੂਜਾ ॥੨॥

ਤੂ ਪੂਰਿ ਰਹਿਓ ਹੈ ਸਭ ਸਮਾਨ ॥

Where the demi-gods and the munis are unnumbered, where millions of Saraswatis, goddess of music play the vina,

From where did the word Maya come? Isn’t it a typical Vedantic concept discussed profoundly in Advaita? It definitely isn’t a concept pioneered by Kabir or even his teacher Ramanandacharya! It is ultimately from Sanatana Dharma!

Where millions of Vishnus bow their heads, where millions of Brahmas are reading the Vedas,

From Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 1195

ਪੂਜਾ ਕਰਉ ਨ ਨਿਵਾਜ ਗੁਜਾਰਉ ॥

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ਬ੍ਰਹਮ is Brahm i.e the Brahman of vedanta but it gets interpreted as an all-pervading lord god.

We can see that great saints like Kabir and Ravidas etc… descended from the Ramananda sampradaya which is still the largest ascetic order in India.

ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਸਭ ਦੇਖੇ ਜੋਇ ॥

Where should I go? My home is filled with bliss.

Kabeer: O worthless mortal, do not lose the Naam, the Name of the Lord.

ਸੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਬਤਾਇਓ ਗੁਰ ਮਨ ਹੀ ਮਾਹਿ ॥੧॥

NOW…

Let's look at the views of Sant Kabir

If God be within the mosque, then to whom does this world belong?

The Word of the Guru's Shabad eradicates the karma of millions of past actions. ||3||1||

Recklessly they display boundless pride while explaining their own aims, they kill cows.

ਅਬ ਕਹੁ ਰਾਮ ਕਵਨ ਗਤਿ ਮੋਰੀ ॥

For a superficial McSikh who is interested only in separation and not enlightenment the views of Kabir can be easily shown as a denouncement of Hindu practices.

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

If Ram be within the image which you find upon your pilgrimage,

As long as the mind is filled with the desire for heaven,

ਕਹੁ ਗੁਰ ਗਜ ਸਿਵ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਜਾਨੈ ॥

For many years, I practiced penance and intense meditation at Kaashi;

Kabir is the child of Allah and of Ram: He is my Guru, He is my Pir.

Gauree, Kabeer Jee, Panch-Padas:

ਮੇਰਾ ਚਿਤੁ ਨ ਚਲੈ ਮਨੁ ਭਇਓ ਪੰਗੁ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

I am like a fish out of water,

ਕੈਸੇ ਬੂਝੈ ਜਬ ਮੋਹਿਆ ਹੈ ਮਾਇਆ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

Wherever I go, I find water and stones.

Let’s see what Gurbani has about Ramanandacharya’s views.

I do not make pilgrimages to Mecca, nor do I worship at Hindu sacred shrines.

Because in my previous life, I did not practice penance and intense meditation. ||1||

Here ਨਿਰਗੁਣ is Nirgun and not just lord. This is just another example to show that Kabir himself continued in the NIRGUN BHAKTI path.

I went to God's place, and worshipped Him there.

The Sant Sampraday of Sikh panth integrates the warrior spirit of the Nihangs and Khalsa, the service of Seva panth and the renunciation of Udasi/Nirmala saints.

ਕਬੀਰ ਨਿਰਗੁਣ ਨਾਮ ਨ ਰੋਸੁ ॥

ਊਹਾਂ ਤਉ ਜਾਈਐ ਜਉ ਈਹਾਂ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥੨॥

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

— Kabir, Ramaini 1, Translated by David Lorenzen

Hari is in the East, Allah is in the West.

He accepted even women (Sursuri and Padywati) as disciples. Bhagat Pipa and Dhanna were Rajput and Jat who were also his disciples.

Look within your heart, for there you will find both Karim and Ram;

Where millions of Shivas are lost in contemplation, where millions of Indras dwell in the sky,

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Kabir, Ravidas and ultimately the NINE SIKH GURUS are a product of this very Sant Sampraday founded by Ramanandacharya!

There the streams of light flow in all directions, few are the men who can cross to that shore!

ਪੂਜਨ ਚਾਲੀ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਠਾਇ ॥

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ ॥੫॥੧੫॥

ਘਸਿ ਚੰਦਨ ਚੋਆ ਬਹੁ ਸੁਗੰਧ ॥

Sikhism is fundamentally rooted in BHAKTI tradition and thus ultimately in Sanatana Dharma. There is no doubt about it despite what modern McSikh acrobatics try to claim otherwise

These morons know nothing, they wander about in ignorance,

यस्य देवे परा भक्तिः यथा देवे तथा गुरौ । तस्यैते कथिता ह्यर्थाः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मनः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मन इति ।

My body and breath of life belong to Allah - to Raam - the God of both. ||4||

ਜਿਉ ਜਲ ਛੋਡਿ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਭਇਓ ਮੀਨਾ ॥

One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:

How can people understand You, when they are entranced by Maya? ||1|| Pause ||

Says Kabeer, unto whom should I tell this?

ਕਾਸੀ ਮਗਹਰ ਸਮ ਬੀਚਾਰੀ ॥

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਜੀ ਘਰੁ ੧

You are totally pervading and permeating in all.

One day, a desire welled up in my mind.

He who has highest Bhakti of Deva (God), just like his Deva, so for his Guru (teacher),

Ramananda accepted disciples without discriminating against anyone by gender, class or caste and they included even people from humble origins like

Ramanandacharya’s teachings were centered on pure and personal connection with the God Rama and didn’t believe in any kind of formal ritualism. He used the common vernacular language instead of Sanskrit so that everyone could understand.

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹ ਕਹੀਐ ਕਾਹਿ ॥

ਪੂਰਬ ਜਨਮ ਹਉ ਤਪ ਕਾ ਹੀਨਾ ॥੧॥

I am a sacrifice to You, O my True Guru.

— Kabir, III.2, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

ਗਉੜੀ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ ਪੰਚਪਦੇ ॥

ਮਰਤੀ ਬਾਰ ਮਗਹਰਿ ਉਠਿ ਆਇਆ ॥੨॥

The divergence of Kabir’s views from Vedanta is seen in the fact that he fully opposed religious symbolism of ALL KINDS and not just IDOLS.

All the men and women of the world are His living forms.

— Kabir, II.57, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

ਸਾਧਸੰਗਤਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠੈ ਆਹਿ ॥੪॥੧੦॥

Kabir (a weaver)

ਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਕਾਟੈ ਕੋਟਿ ਕਰਮ ॥੩॥੧॥

Now here in this verse

There, where millions of Krishnas stand with hands folded,

So in the same spirit Kabir finds pilgrimages to holy cities futile as his mind is fixated on Rama!

Raamaanand Jee, First House:

Says Kabeer, the Guru and Ganaysha and Shiva all know

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Now that my time to die has come, I have come to dwell at Magahar! ||3||

Ravidas (a chamar shoemaker)

Without looking into one's heart, how can one reach paradise?

With inadequate devotion, how can anyone swim across? ||4||

But we have actually seen how much Kabir is also rooted in the Vedantic concept of “supreme realization” but in a non-mainstream path.

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

ਮਰਨੁ ਭਇਆ ਮਗਹਰ ਕੀ ਬਾਸੀ ॥੩॥

Ramanandacharya was a 14th-century Hindu Vaishnava devotional poet saint who amalgamated Advaita with Vaishnava Bhakti. He was the pioneer in validating NIRGUN and SAGUN Bhakti as parallel paths.

ਗੁਰ ਪੀਰ ਮਿਲਿ ਖੁਦਿ ਖਸਮੁ ਪਛਾਨਾ ॥੫॥੩॥

The influence of Kabir is significant on Sikhism. The following Bani from Ang 1136 is attributed to GURU ARJAN DEV but if you observe at the end you can see that he was talking in the spirit of Sant Kabir.

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 326

ਤਜੀ ਲੇ ਬਨਾਰਸ ਮਤਿ ਭਈ ਥੋਰੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

ਸਗਲ ਜਨਮੁ ਸਿਵ ਪੁਰੀ ਗਵਾਇਆ ॥

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

Kaashi and Magahar - I consider them the same.

Says Kabeer, this is what I say:

ਜਿਨਿ ਸਕਲ ਬਿਕਲ ਭ੍ਰਮ ਕਾਟੇ ਮੋਰ ॥

ਤਬ ਲਗੁ ਹੋਇ ਨਹੀ ਚਰਨ ਨਿਵਾਸੁ ॥੩॥

Again we see that the originator of this Sant Sampraday himself talks about Brahman even in Gurbani.

He does not dwell at the Lord's Feet. ||3||

That God showed me the Guru, within my own mind. ||1||

Guru Nanak (right) and Bhai Mardana (foreground) with Bhagat Kabir (left). This painting is found in the B-40 Janamsakhi, written and painted in 1733. The painting was made by Alam Chand Raj

We can understand that Kabir despite being in favor of formless worship was very much embedded in the Dharmik fold but always preached in the spirit of the transcendental nature of Brahman to the point that HE LOST THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN HINDU AND MUSLIM.

That Kabeer died chanting the Lord's Name. ||5||15||

ਜਬ ਲਗੁ ਮਨਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠ ਕੀ ਆਸ ॥

ਅਲਹ ਰਾਮ ਕੇ ਪਿੰਡੁ ਪਰਾਨ ॥੪॥

As mentioned above Guru Arjan Dev was talking from the perspective Sant Kabir whose views we have discussed much earlier here. We know that Sant Kabir continuing in the Ramanandi Sampradaya went further away from the mainstream ritualistic Hinduism and was journeying more towards a SEAMLESS Dharma.